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FLIGHT LOG

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Day 139 - Roll Correction, Axion G4, foam flights
Date: 8th December 2013
Location:
Doonside, NSW, Australia
Conditions:
 Clear skies, 5km/h early, 15km/h later, 28C
Team Members at Event:
 PK, GK, Paul K, and John K.

It's only been a week since the last launch so we didn't quite finish preparing the Gravity Mechanisms Part #2 experiment. It was also the last Doonside launch for the year, so we brought a few of the smaller rockets to the launch. We wanted to fly some casual rockets and also try to reduce the roll of one of the rockets as much as we could to get more stable video.

We configured the Axion G4 for flight with the 15mm nozzle using 22mm full-bore tornado tubes to join the segments. Launched at 210psi the rocket accelerated very nicely and went up to 657 feet (200 m). Unfortunately it landed fins first on hard ground and broke off a fin at the glue joint. This is easily repaired.


Axion G4

Norm getting ready to launch

Photo: David Bell

Because it was such a beautiful day we launched a couple of foam flights. The foam flights are always fun to see against the blue sky. Both flights went went well and recovered safely.


Photo: David Bell
 

Foam trail
 

Dad getting ready with the
next foam refill.
 

Here is a highlights video from the day:

Roll Correction

During last week's launch we saw that the new fin cans reduced the roll of the rocket, but not quite enough as the rocket still went through ~250 degrees from launch to apogee. Although the fins may be aligned correctly, it is the total sum of all the protrusions on the outside of the rocket such as the camera, parachute cord, deployment mechanism etc. that contribute to the overall aerodynamically induced roll.

The plan was simply to put little flaps on the fins to try to trim out the roll. We made the flaps out of small PET wedges about 2cm wide 5mm tall and taped them to the outside edge of the fins to make sure they didn't change their shape during flight. If they were just flat flaps on the trailing edges they could easily bend back at speed and it would be difficult to adjust them accurately on subsequent flights. This way we could change the height of each wedge to change the trim.


PET wedge taped to the side of the fin
to induce roll. 

Test launch

Just after air pulse

... and landing

We first flew the rocket and reviewed the video to see which way it was spinning so we could put the wedges on the correct side of the fins. Well we flew it again and reviewed the video only to realize that we must have put them on the wrong side and the rocket spun twice as much! Doh! We swapped the wedges over onto the other side of the fins and flew the rocket for a third time. This time the roll was reversed correctly but a little too much in the other direction. We think that halving the height of the wedges should be just about right to reduce the roll right down.

Unfortunately we ran out of time for another flight, but we'll just continue the trim procedure at the next launch to see if we can get it down to less than 90 degrees. We've only had a couple of good flights a few years ago where the rocket had virtually no roll. We haven't been able to re-create that since. Jamie from JSB Rocketry also recently posted a video of some of his flights also with virtually no roll.

But wait there's more ...

Lesson in Aerodynamics #23

So let's roll forward a few days ... while again reviewing the onboard videos for this update, we noticed that the wedges had been on the correct side in the first place as intended. The rocket was rotating in the direction of the wedges not in the opposite direction as expected. What the heck was going on? After a bit of head scratching we realized that we must have created an aerofoil on the side of the fin with the wedge which would have generated a low pressure behind it  causing the fin to be pulled in that direction.

So we set up a simple experiment to see if that was actually happening. We made the tail end of a rocket with cardboard fins and suspended it on a piece of wire to let it rotate freely. We then added flaps to the trailing edges of the fins and used an electric air mattress inflator as the wind source. Sure enough the rocket spun in the right direction as expected. We then moved those flaps forward on the fin angled about the same amount emulating the wedges we used on the real rocket, and what do you know, the fins spun in the other direction! ..... Lesson learned. :)

Hmmm... this implies that somewhere between the two positions, you should be able to position a specifically shaped protrusion, say a camera, and not induce rotation?


Testing with tabs on trailing edges
 

Testing with tabs on fin
 

Airflow over trailing edge
with induced force

Airflow over flap on fin
with induced lift

Here is a video of the tests:

Paul also managed to launch 3 of his pyro rockets all with good recovery. That made a total of 9 good flights for the day.


Packing up the car with rocket bits.

Paul getting ready to
launch his rocket.
Photo by: David Bell

Prepping Paul's rocket

 

Paul wiring up his "Black Thunder".

 

John launching a big
pyro rocket
Photo by: David Bell

Sometimes life can be a drag.
John giving David Bell's
parachute a trial run.

Paul's pod 2.
Photo by: David Bell

 

Flight Details

Launch Details
1
Rocket   Axion G4
Pressure   210psi
Nozzle   15mm
Water   1800mL
Flight Computer   ST II - 6 seconds
Payload   HD Cam#11, AltimeterOne
Altitude / Time   657' / 33.1 seconds
Notes   Good flight with good recovery. Broke off one fin on landing.
2
Rocket   Axion
Pressure   120psi
Nozzle   9mm (Jet Foaming)
Water   1800mL + foam
Flight Computer   ST II - 5 seconds
Payload   HD Cam #16, AltimeterOne
Altitude / Time   369' / 25.1 seconds
Notes   Good flight with long sustain and good landing.
3
Rocket   Pod 2 (Paul's Praetor)
Motor   C6-5
Altitude / Time   ? / ? seconds
Notes   Good burn and recovered well.
4
Rocket   Axion
Pressure   120psi
Nozzle   9mm (Jet Foaming)
Water   1800mL + foam
Flight Computer   ST II - 5 seconds
Payload   HD Cam #16, AltimeterOne
Altitude / Time   356' / 21.9 seconds
Notes   Good flight with long sustain and good landing.
5
Rocket   Axion II
Pressure   120psi
Nozzle   9mm
Water   1400mL
Flight Computer   ST II - 5 seconds
Payload   HD Cam #16, AltimeterOne
Altitude / Time   371' / 19.3  seconds
Notes   Good flight with good landing.
6
Rocket   Black Thunder
Motor   C6-3
Altitude / Time   ? / ? seconds
Notes   Good burn and recovered well.
7
Rocket   Axion II
Pressure   120psi
Nozzle   9mm
Water   1400mL
Flight Computer   ST II - 5 seconds
Payload   HD Cam #16, AltimeterOne
Altitude / Time    343' / 20.0 seconds
Notes   Good flight with good landing. Nosecone hit first and cracked along edges. Fins were fitted with flaps to try to stop rotation.
8
Rocket   Axion II
Pressure   120psi
Nozzle   9mm
Water   1400mL
Flight Computer   ST II - 5 seconds
Payload   HD Cam #16, AltimeterOne
Altitude / Time    343' / 18.7 seconds
Notes   Good flight with good landing. Fins were fitted with flaps to try to stop rotation.
9
Rocket   Thunderbee Hero
Motor   1/2A3
Altitude / Time   ? / ? seconds
Notes   Good burn and recovered well even though it did not have a streamer.

 

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